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NASBA Explains Its New Web-Based CPE Tracking Tool

At the September Florida CPA Society Show in Fort Lauderdale last month, I stopped in at the NASBA booth and visited with Jill Gordon, a very exuberant promoter of her agency’s soon-to-be-released web-based CPE tracking tool.

From the January 2006 Tax Season Survival Guide

At the September Florida CPA Society Show in Fort Lauderdale last month, I stopped in at the booth for the National Association of State Boards of Accountancy (NASBA) and visited with Jill Gordon, a very exuberant promoter of her agency’s soon-to-be-released web-based CPE tracking tool. After about five minutes of conversation, I was hooked and most definitely wanted to know more. The “more” came by way of an interview with Yordanos Dumez who is the Director of Compliance Services for NASBA. Here’s your “over-the-shoulder” peek at that interview:


LaFollette: NASBA is an interesting entity. Can you tell me a little about its organization, governance and mission?

Dumez: NASBA is a 501 c(6) organization, a not-for-profit for all accounting/regulatory activity and owns 100 percent of a for-profit subsidiary, Professional Credential Services (PCS). NASBA is governed by a membership elected Board of Directors, is staffed by a President/CEO (David Costello, CPA), an Executive Vice President/COO (Lorraine Sachs, CAE), and about 140 staff. NASBA’s
mission is to enhance the effectiveness of state
boards of accountancy.


LaFollette: How did you come to be associated with NASBA? What is your role and what are your responsibilities?

Dumez: I performed compliance audits for the Tennessee State Board of Accountancy, where I met David Costello, then the Board’s Executive Director. When NASBA relocated to Nashville from Manhattan in 1997, David recruited me to join NASBA, and it was the best business decision
I’ve ever made. I am the Director of Compliance Services, and I oversee the efforts of each of
NASBA’s programs in the division, including the following: CPEtracking, CPEMARKET.COM, National Registry of CPE Sponsors (Registry), Quality Assurance Service (QAS), Accountancy Licensee Database (ALD), CredentialNet and Licensure, and, in the very near future, the Accountancy Licensee Library (ALL). The upcoming web site,, will encompass all of the various programs included in Compliance Services. The web site is scheduled to go live the first quarter of 2006.


LaFollette: I know you’ve been involved with CPE for quite some time so you certainly know about the hodge-podge of regulations that practitioners face. Will NASBA’s CPEtracking service help practicing accountants with that?

Dumez: Myriad differences in CPE requirements exist throughout the country; we cannot change that reality. But we can and do help
practitioners deal with it much more efficiently
and effectively by putting at their finger
tips an electronic methodology for quickly
determining compliance with any state’s rules
and regulations.


LaFollette: Your new offering, CPEtracking, is designed to eventually communicate with all 54 jurisdictions electronically. Keeping in mind the AICPA’s recent failure with a mirror-image initiative at the state society level, do you feel NASBA can successfully deliver? Why? What’s different?

Dumez: Our initiative is substantially different. We studiously avoided a “top-down” attitude.
Our approach was bottom-up as we looked for common threads. Our mission is to enhance the efficiency of the state boards and by providing what they need, we believe we can do so. We
are simply clarifying and coordinating things
that already exist — CPE rules and regulations. As you may know, every jurisdiction except two has a CPE requirement, and boards want compliance. We are helping boards gain better compliance, and we are assisting professionals in more effectively complying with the law. We are not supplanting anything the state boards are currently doing; we are simply making compliance more efficient by better informing the public and practitioners about the state rules, regulations and where each practitioner stands with respect to each.


LaFollette: Please tell me more. Exactly what is CPEtracking?

Dumez: CPEtracking is a tool that provides an online compliance management solution for state boards of accountancy, CPA firms, and individual CPAs. Its flexible system architecture means CPEtracking can integrate with a firm’s existing programs. CPAs can enter course details and immediately see their compliance by jurisdiction and reporting period. It provides for uploading scanned “evidence of attendance” and will print ready-for-filing reports and, eventually, file those reports electronically with participating jurisdictions. We’re rolling out the service in early 2006. It’s priced at $20 per professional per year.


LaFollette: How will you define success for your efforts? How many users will you attract by January 2007?

Dumez: We are already successful in CPEtracking with Deloitte Touche and its subsidiaries. Our success only intensifies with each new client and each new user that signs on. We would expect no less than 100,000 users by 2007.


LaFollette: Will our profession ever move away from a “time-served” CPE requirement?

Dumez: Ever is a long time. The real issue is whether state boards and state government will move away from the time-based model. I really don’t see that happening anytime soon. I do see more emphasis on demonstration of competence-based learning, but I haven’t seen effective measurement for such. We have bright educators, bright board people and bright professionals. Who knows what might happen in 10 years.


LaFollette: What is the future of professional education for practicing accountants?

Dumez: Lifelong learning is something all individuals who call themselves CPAs must embrace. There may be different delivery modes or assessment techniques in the future, but this is a dynamic profession that must always keep learning. As in the past, sponsors of professional education will tweak courses to meet the needs of the changing profession.


LaFollette: What is your personal opinion of the emerging credentials within the AICPA (ABV, PFS and CITP)? Will CPEtracking be able to accommodate their special CPE requirements?

Dumez: CPEtracking can accommodate any reasonable need of its clients. We believe in and support credentials that assist the consuming public in making decisions about people/firms delivering professional services. What the future will bring, especially in the Internet age, remains to be seen. When the time is right, we’ll be ready. Currently, since none of the state boards require or regulate these additional designations, they have not been our initial focus. If there is sufficient demand for including them in our tracking, we will consider it.


LaFollette: You live and work in Nashville, which is truly a beautiful place. I’ve been there several times. I have a single question: Just how long is Old Hickory Blvd.?

Dumez: It has no beginning and no end.


LaFollette: People’s entertainment habits fascinate me. What’s the last book you read, the last movie you saw, and what television show would you actually hurry home to see?

Dumez: I last read “The Tipping Point,” by Malcolm Gladwell; last saw “Cinema Paradiso,” and hurry home to see “Desperate Housewives.” 


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