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Listening: The Most Important Advice

Column: Business in Practice

From the August 2009 Issue

From an early age, we were probably all instructed to listen and pay attention,
but we likely didn’t understand the significance of that advice until
much later. We might have listened as kids to some degree, but that’s
mostly due to the consequences we’d suffer from our parents or teachers
for not doing so. I first discovered the importance of this advice when I was
12 years old.

I grew up in a family of entrepreneurs focused on financial products for the
accountant market. In fact, at midnight, just hours before I was born, my mom
had been sorting punch cards for their largest accountant. As a result of the
“family business,” dinner table conversations often turned to business.
I distinctly remember a conversation after a typical weekend dinner when I was
12 years old. The other kids had gone out to throw rotten oranges at each other,
but for some reason I stayed to listen to my dad and grandfather talk about

At one point, my grandfather turned to me and said, “The most important
key to success is to listen.”

As the years rolled by, I watched my dad and grandfather listen to their hearts,
their customers, their employees and their advisors. The advice took on new
meaning when I worked at Intuit, whose focus on listening to the customer defined
a market. Working there, I learned how to use marketing tools such as focus
groups and quantitative research in addition to my favorite method: one-on-one

So when I left Intuit to start my first small business, PayCycle, the first
thing I did was go and talk to potential customers from household employers
to small businesses and accountants. Those one-on-one conversations helped shape
all of the best ideas that were implemented into that product. The conversations
with accountants regarding payroll always came back to it being a pain with
no easy way to keep track of the different payroll needs of each of their clients.
As a result, accountants often referred their clients’ payroll over to
large service bureaus. Based on that, we set out to solve the pain points and
came up with specific features for accountants that became the backbone of the
company’s success.

I left PayCycle’s day-to-day operations in 2006 because I felt compelled
as an entrepreneur to try to solve another pain point accountants were telling
me about. This is when listening took on an even greater meaning — it
became more than listening to others; it became listening to employees, investors
and my heart.

There are no “marketing tools” that help with the process of listening
to all of these, but the fundamentals are the same: Stop, Breathe, Listen, Repeat.

Listening requires clarity in thought; hence, the “Stop and Breathe”
steps. I have found that those two things allow me to really listen. It’s
how I listen to the “heart.” Starting a company is a big gamble,
but people do it because something tells them inside that they can make more
of a difference as an entrepreneur. That is why listening to the heart is so
important. Once you hear the heart, you have to vet it with customers. The important
thing is that it starts with the heart.

Listening is a non-stop process. That’s why I use the word Repeat above.
As accountants, you know this and do it well. You have all the information about
your clients all the time. You can listen to the numbers in addition to the
people. You are reading this magazine because you recognize the importance of
listening to the technology trends of the future. In short, accountants, as
the trusted advisors of choice, are in a unique position to listen to customers,
markets and trends. It’s why, as a small business owner, I have the accountant
do all the bookkeeping. I trust my accountant to do it better, more efficiently
and more accurately than I could do it. And it gives me more time to grow my

So why all this talk about listening? Well, I hope that you will listen and
use the information in this column as I share what I have learned (and continue
to learn) from listening to accountants and small businesses. I also encourage
you to email your thoughts to my attention at
whenever you feel compelled. I look forward to listening to you, sharing what
I hear and learning with you.

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